Comments on: Blogswipes, Law and the Indo http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/ A companion to Tuppenceworth.ie, this is also interested in art, opinion and ideas Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:38:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 200 Words » Archives » Cash Call http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-146366 200 Words » Archives » Cash Call Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:22:39 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-146366 [...] is no crime of plagiarism in Irish law. But there is the Copyright Act 2000. I sent off an invoice. I got a phone call in response, but no [...] [...] is no crime of plagiarism in Irish law. But there is the Copyright Act 2000. I sent off an invoice. I got a phone call in response, but no [...]

]]> By: Celtictigger http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29681 Celtictigger Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:53:59 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29681 Blogger Zen Koan... If the cops kept a blog and the Indo cogged from it, would it be credited as a "police source"? Blogger Zen Koan…

If the cops kept a blog and the Indo cogged from it, would it be credited as a “police source”?

]]> By: Daragh O Brien http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29679 Daragh O Brien Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:49:45 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29679 Me: "Officer, somebody swiped stuff off my blog" Plod: "Where is your Bog? This is Pearse St, if your bog is in the country you'll need to find your local station and report it there" Me: "No, I'm a blogger. Somebody cut stuff out of my blog" Plod: "Sir, if you are from the country you should really go to your local station and report that someone has cut turf out of your bog". Me:"No... I am a b*L*ogger. I write a b*L*og. Somebody nicked some of the content of my b*L*og. I'd like to report it." Plod: "Sir, if someone took the contents of your bog you should really report it to the gardai in your area. They'll be better placed to investigate it. Now, if you don't mind I need to track down some drug dealers (opens window, looks out)" Me: "Arse." Me: “Officer, somebody swiped stuff off my blog”

Plod: “Where is your Bog? This is Pearse St, if your bog is in the country you’ll need to find your local station and report it there”

Me: “No, I’m a blogger. Somebody cut stuff out of my blog”

Plod: “Sir, if you are from the country you should really go to your local station and report that someone has cut turf out of your bog”.

Me:”No… I am a b*L*ogger. I write a b*L*og. Somebody nicked some of the content of my b*L*og. I’d like to report it.”

Plod: “Sir, if someone took the contents of your bog you should really report it to the gardai in your area. They’ll be better placed to investigate it. Now, if you don’t mind I need to track down some drug dealers (opens window, looks out)”

Me: “Arse.”

]]> By: Simon McGarr http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29676 Simon McGarr Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:34:26 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29676 TJ; How could I have forgotten! I recall well the day Mr. Justice Peter Kelly recommended to EMI et al that they should pass details to the DPP of copyright infringement. If anyone does report a blogswipe to the police, please come back and tell us how it went. TJ; How could I have forgotten! I recall well the day Mr. Justice Peter Kelly recommended to EMI et al that they should pass details to the DPP of copyright infringement.

If anyone does report a blogswipe to the police, please come back and tell us how it went.

]]> By: copernicus http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29569 copernicus Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:53:25 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29569 My point - and I don't know if it's a sustainable one - is that you would be in a stronger position to demand payment if you had an attribution CC licence. My point – and I don’t know if it’s a sustainable one – is that you would be in a stronger position to demand payment if you had an attribution CC licence.

]]> By: Twenty Major http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29537 Twenty Major Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:41 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29537 Cheers Simon, I just meant that a CC licence is not really going to put off somebody who is willing to copy and paste someone else's content into an article. Cheers Simon, I just meant that a CC licence is not really going to put off somebody who is willing to copy and paste someone else’s content into an article.

]]> By: TJ http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29530 TJ Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:36:26 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29530 "There is no crime of plagiarism" Your illness may be causing you to overlook some of the finer points of copyright law. :) Where the level of copying / paraphrasing is such as to amount to infringement and the copy is being used in a commercial manner then s.140 CRRA applies: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0028/sec0140.html#partii-chapxiii-sec140 “There is no crime of plagiarism”

Your illness may be causing you to overlook some of the finer points of copyright law. :) Where the level of copying / paraphrasing is such as to amount to infringement and the copy is being used in a commercial manner then s.140 CRRA applies:

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0028/sec0140.html#partii-chapxiii-sec140

]]> By: Simon McGarr http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29519 Simon McGarr Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:23:43 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29519 Adam; you have the right to control your own word and where they appear. The question I was addressing was the practical one of whether you could expect to recieve enough compensation for a breach of that right to make it worth the effort to pursue it. @ Twenty & Celtictigger: absence of a cc licence doesn't mean you've given all your rights away. The default position for all original works is that All Rights are reserved to the author. Adam; you have the right to control your own word and where they appear. The question I was addressing was the practical one of whether you could expect to recieve enough compensation for a breach of that right to make it worth the effort to pursue it.

@ Twenty & Celtictigger: absence of a cc licence doesn’t mean you’ve given all your rights away. The default position for all original works is that All Rights are reserved to the author.

]]> By: Twenty Major http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29514 Twenty Major Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:50:05 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29514 Is a CC licence going to stop an Indo journalist from cogging though? Is a CC licence going to stop an Indo journalist from cogging though?

]]> By: copernicus http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29498 copernicus Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:10:24 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29498 Bloggers might be well advised to put a CC licence on everything. Bloggers might be well advised to put a CC licence on everything.

]]> By: Daragh O Brien http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29482 Daragh O Brien Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:26:12 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29482 Distinctive isnt' always good. You can stand out in your field for being crappest. Steve Staunton was a distinctive football manager for example. Distinctive isnt’ always good. You can stand out in your field for being crappest. Steve Staunton was a distinctive football manager for example.

]]> By: Twenty Major http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/comment-page-1/#comment-29478 Twenty Major Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:23:00 +0000 http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/blog/index.php/2007/12/12/blogswipes-law-and-the-indo/#comment-29478 <i>The result is that our journalists are now better focussed on crafting content that truly makes us distinctive</i> Distinctive from other newspapers, perhaps, but I suppose the good thing for Indo hacks is that they could walk into to a job in any gossip mag like Heat without any problem at all. The result is that our journalists are now better focussed on crafting content that truly makes us distinctive

Distinctive from other newspapers, perhaps, but I suppose the good thing for Indo hacks is that they could walk into to a job in any gossip mag like Heat without any problem at all.

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