{"id":40,"date":"2005-06-28T11:40:00","date_gmt":"2005-06-28T10:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/?p=40"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-29T23:00:00","slug":"grokster-lose","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/2005\/06\/28\/grokster-lose\/","title":{"rendered":"Grokster Lose"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--111995661020393414--> <\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<p>Some time ago over on the main site I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/Politics\/groksterlaw.html\">wrote<\/a> about the MGM v Grokster case in the Supreme Court of the United States (or SCOTUS as the online <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scotusblog.com\/movabletype\/\">law nerds <\/a>like to call it). Well the decision&#8217;s in, and contrary to what some of the commentators have been saying, it&#8217;s a reaonable enough judgement, delivered by the moderate Justice David Souter. Essentially it leaves standing the Sony principle &#8211; that a manufacturer is not liable just because his product <em>can<\/em> be used to infringe copyright, while holding on the facts that Grokster and Dreamcast were guilty of &#8220;actual inducement&#8221; of users to trade files illegally. This is a step further than Sony, who always at least kept up the charade that Betamax was only intended for home video use.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s plenty of evidence that Grokster and Dreamcast on the other hand went to some trouble to induce people to use their products to share copyrighted music, so as I suggested in my earlier article, they weren&#8217;t whiter than white going into the case. This is what makes some of the protests I&#8217;ve been reading this afternoon seem more than a little disingenuous. Unless you have a problem with the whole principle of copyright (and many do) it&#8217;s hard to fault the judgement, except to point out that by giving neither the industry nor the <a href=\"http:\/\/free-culture.org\/\">Free Culture<\/a> types what they wanted, it has a fudgy taste about it.<\/p>\n<p>It remains to be seen how the judgement will affect online practice. Perhaps file sharing sites will simply put up a big banner telling us that &#8220;File Sharing is Killing Music&#8230;..and It&#8217;s Illegal!&#8221; while knowing full well that we&#8217;re all at it. The whole decision is available for <a href=\"http:\/\/a257.g.akamaitech.net\/7\/257\/2422\/27jun20051200\/www.supremecourtus.gov\/opinions\/04pdf\/04-480.pdf\">download<\/a> in pdf. format, but you may prefer to wait for a digested version which I&#8217;ll post when I&#8217;ve read the whole thing in more detail.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both; padding-bottom: 0.25em;\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Some time ago over on the main site I wrote about the MGM v Grokster case in the Supreme Court of the United States (or SCOTUS as the online law nerds like to call it). Well the decision&#8217;s in, and contrary to what some of the commentators have been saying, it&#8217;s a reaonable enough judgement, delivered by the moderate Justice David Souter. Essentially it leaves standing the Sony principle &#8211; that a manufacturer is not liable just because his product can be used to infringe copyright, while holding on the facts that Grokster and Dreamcast were guilty of &#8220;actual inducement&#8221; of users to trade files illegally. This is a step further than Sony, who always at least kept up the charade that Betamax was only intended for home video use. There&#8217;s plenty of evidence that Grokster and Dreamcast on the other hand went to some trouble to induce people to use their products to share copyrighted music, so as I suggested in my earlier article, they weren&#8217;t whiter than white going into the case. This is what makes some of the protests I&#8217;ve been reading this afternoon seem more than a little disingenuous. Unless you have a problem with the whole principle of copyright (and many do) it&#8217;s hard to fault the judgement, except to point out that by giving neither the industry nor the Free Culture types what they wanted, it has a fudgy taste about it. It remains to be seen how the judgement will affect online practice. Perhaps file sharing sites will simply put up a big banner telling us that &#8220;File Sharing is Killing Music&#8230;..and It&#8217;s Illegal!&#8221; while knowing full well that we&#8217;re all at it. The whole decision is available for download in pdf. format, but you may prefer to wait for a digested version which I&#8217;ll post when I&#8217;ve read the whole thing in more detail.","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tuppenceworth.ie\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}